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	<title>Comments on: Cautious Optimism, Ambitious Pragmatism: An Interview with Klaus Heymann</title>
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		<title>By: Chris Sahar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Sahar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 15:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mixed feeling about Adams comments at Newsweek. I like his freedom in expressing his opinions and regarding naxos in particular, I think he has a right to criticize the releases of his own music BUT I am disturbed he throws such a blanket statement. Naxos has put out both wonderful performances as well as mediocre. So I am on the fence about his comments about Naxos. Will it do harm? Probably not. I know that my friends and family will take more seriously a recommended Naxos CD than John Adams. 

Also, Adams accusation of young composers &quot;dumbing&quot; down though I think is true in some instances is a paradoxical statement - many music lovers would point to Adams &#039; works as the start of dumbing down classical music (I neither agree or disagree with that statement, honestly. I think at times he does so unintentionally).

Finally, you have to wonder what was left out - I mean Newsweek for space consideration definitely edited Adam&#039;s comments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mixed feeling about Adams comments at Newsweek. I like his freedom in expressing his opinions and regarding naxos in particular, I think he has a right to criticize the releases of his own music BUT I am disturbed he throws such a blanket statement. Naxos has put out both wonderful performances as well as mediocre. So I am on the fence about his comments about Naxos. Will it do harm? Probably not. I know that my friends and family will take more seriously a recommended Naxos CD than John Adams. </p>
<p>Also, Adams accusation of young composers &#8220;dumbing&#8221; down though I think is true in some instances is a paradoxical statement &#8211; many music lovers would point to Adams &#8216; works as the start of dumbing down classical music (I neither agree or disagree with that statement, honestly. I think at times he does so unintentionally).</p>
<p>Finally, you have to wonder what was left out &#8211; I mean Newsweek for space consideration definitely edited Adam&#8217;s comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Opus111</title>
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		<dc:creator>Opus111</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 18:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to you and to Paul for these revealing interviews.  I, too, would have liked to hear Adams respond to the comments in this interview.  It&#039;s as though he&#039;s been reading too much Christopher Hitchens.  And for being so proudly misguided, he deserved a little bop on the nose.  Kudos to Heymann and to his company: Like it or not, it will be Naxos (and not Adams) who plays the more decisive role in the future direction of classical music.  And they have done more for it already.  The podium, the baton, is theirs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to you and to Paul for these revealing interviews.  I, too, would have liked to hear Adams respond to the comments in this interview.  It&#8217;s as though he&#8217;s been reading too much Christopher Hitchens.  And for being so proudly misguided, he deserved a little bop on the nose.  Kudos to Heymann and to his company: Like it or not, it will be Naxos (and not Adams) who plays the more decisive role in the future direction of classical music.  And they have done more for it already.  The podium, the baton, is theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Carey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian Carey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 23:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paul, 

You raise good points and I enjoyed Ann&#039;s article very much. Thanks for linking it!

Are composers concerned with making money on their recordings or with gaining wider awareness of their music? For many of the composers featured in the American Classics series, I imagine that breaking even and getting their work out there is the goal of releasing a CD. This is increasingly the case in pop music too; the acts make their money off of touring, not recording!

But for Heymann and his colleagues at Naxos, the calculus in the coming years will need to be as follows: how many &#039;loss-leaders&#039; can they afford on the backs of the sales of &#039;Best of Chopin&#039; discs and Naxos Library subscriptions? At what point does the market for the American Classics series get saturated? Who makes the cut at that point? 

Other labels are increasingly having to sharpen their pencils too; who will be recording American music in the future?

Unrecorded composers such as myself watch nervously and hope that the classical record industry will still be around when we&#039;re ready to release a debut CD...

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Armando, 

For me, the issue with John Adams isn&#039;t so much about how his remarks impact his own working relationship with the label; that&#039;s his affair. But in the Newsweek piece, which I&#039;ve linked above, he sounds off about both young composers and Naxos in a very negative way. Given that this article (from 2009) is appearing in Newsweek, a mainstream publication that doesn&#039;t regularly cover contemporary classical music, this is troubling. It&#039;s hardly likely that this interview will encourage Newsweek readers to seek out music by young composers or, for that matter, a classical recording of any sort.

Whether he likes it or not, Adams is the spokesperson for contemporary classical music that media outlets seek out. His lack of temperance and prudence in interview comments is not doing any of his colleagues - or the next generation of contemporary classical composers - any favors. 

In the Newsweek piece, he seems to relish being a curmudgeon, but I prefer his advocacy as a composer and conductor, where his energy and commitment to American music is much more positive.  

BTW Although I understand the pressures of a deadline, I&#039;m sorry Adams didn&#039;t have time to comment on the Heymann interview. It would be nice to see that fence mended.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, </p>
<p>You raise good points and I enjoyed Ann&#8217;s article very much. Thanks for linking it!</p>
<p>Are composers concerned with making money on their recordings or with gaining wider awareness of their music? For many of the composers featured in the American Classics series, I imagine that breaking even and getting their work out there is the goal of releasing a CD. This is increasingly the case in pop music too; the acts make their money off of touring, not recording!</p>
<p>But for Heymann and his colleagues at Naxos, the calculus in the coming years will need to be as follows: how many &#8216;loss-leaders&#8217; can they afford on the backs of the sales of &#8216;Best of Chopin&#8217; discs and Naxos Library subscriptions? At what point does the market for the American Classics series get saturated? Who makes the cut at that point? </p>
<p>Other labels are increasingly having to sharpen their pencils too; who will be recording American music in the future?</p>
<p>Unrecorded composers such as myself watch nervously and hope that the classical record industry will still be around when we&#8217;re ready to release a debut CD&#8230;</p>
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<p>Armando, </p>
<p>For me, the issue with John Adams isn&#8217;t so much about how his remarks impact his own working relationship with the label; that&#8217;s his affair. But in the Newsweek piece, which I&#8217;ve linked above, he sounds off about both young composers and Naxos in a very negative way. Given that this article (from 2009) is appearing in Newsweek, a mainstream publication that doesn&#8217;t regularly cover contemporary classical music, this is troubling. It&#8217;s hardly likely that this interview will encourage Newsweek readers to seek out music by young composers or, for that matter, a classical recording of any sort.</p>
<p>Whether he likes it or not, Adams is the spokesperson for contemporary classical music that media outlets seek out. His lack of temperance and prudence in interview comments is not doing any of his colleagues &#8211; or the next generation of contemporary classical composers &#8211; any favors. </p>
<p>In the Newsweek piece, he seems to relish being a curmudgeon, but I prefer his advocacy as a composer and conductor, where his energy and commitment to American music is much more positive.  </p>
<p>BTW Although I understand the pressures of a deadline, I&#8217;m sorry Adams didn&#8217;t have time to comment on the Heymann interview. It would be nice to see that fence mended.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul H. Muller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul H. Muller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You want to root for Naxos - they seem to be trying to do the right thing for serious music.  Ann Midgette interviewed Mr. Heymann on July 16, and some actual sales numbers were discussed:

&quot;[As for regular sales:] right now, in the first five months our recording of the Spohr concerto for 2 violins sold 7,000 worldwide. Then Vaughan Williams, “Dona nobis pacem,” 6,000 in only 3 months. 4,500 Vaughan Williams Sacred Choral Works. Alsop Dvorak Symphonies 7 and 8, 4,000 in only two months. Petrenko Shostakovich 8 Liverpool also about 4,000 in only 2 months. Khachaturian cello concerto also about 4,000. Haydn Stabat Mater from Trinity New York also 4,000, but that’s not selling so strongly any more. Roussel Symphony No. 4 also 4,000 in 4 months. 

It’s a very odd repertory nowadays. It’s in many ways gratifiying that all this material [is selling]. Of course with sales of 4,000, you’re not making any money. [What really sell are things like] The Best of Chopin, which is is probably now up to 300,000 or 400,000 in total. Most of what is downloaded on iTunes is this kind of thing. They download the whole album. [As for our other releases,] many of these things will eventually reach 6, 7,000. Vaughan Williams Dona Nobis Pacem with orchestra and chorus, in copyright, probably loses us $10,000 or $15,000. But long term, with all our other revenue sources, we’ll probably break even...&quot;

The full article is here: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-classical-beat/2010/07/the_future_of_the_recording_in.html

So Naxos needs to sell between 5 and 10,000 CDs just to break even or make a small profit - even assuming production costs are low.  I want to see Naxos prosper, but it is hard to see how they are in a position to advance the cause of new music.  For those on the cutting edge of the art form, CD sales by Naxos would not seem to be part of the equation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want to root for Naxos &#8211; they seem to be trying to do the right thing for serious music.  Ann Midgette interviewed Mr. Heymann on July 16, and some actual sales numbers were discussed:</p>
<p>&#8220;[As for regular sales:] right now, in the first five months our recording of the Spohr concerto for 2 violins sold 7,000 worldwide. Then Vaughan Williams, “Dona nobis pacem,” 6,000 in only 3 months. 4,500 Vaughan Williams Sacred Choral Works. Alsop Dvorak Symphonies 7 and 8, 4,000 in only two months. Petrenko Shostakovich 8 Liverpool also about 4,000 in only 2 months. Khachaturian cello concerto also about 4,000. Haydn Stabat Mater from Trinity New York also 4,000, but that’s not selling so strongly any more. Roussel Symphony No. 4 also 4,000 in 4 months. </p>
<p>It’s a very odd repertory nowadays. It’s in many ways gratifiying that all this material [is selling]. Of course with sales of 4,000, you’re not making any money. [What really sell are things like] The Best of Chopin, which is is probably now up to 300,000 or 400,000 in total. Most of what is downloaded on iTunes is this kind of thing. They download the whole album. [As for our other releases,] many of these things will eventually reach 6, 7,000. Vaughan Williams Dona Nobis Pacem with orchestra and chorus, in copyright, probably loses us $10,000 or $15,000. But long term, with all our other revenue sources, we’ll probably break even&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The full article is here: <a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-classical-beat/2010/07/the_future_of_the_recording_in.html" rel="nofollow">http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-classical-beat/2010/07/the_future_of_the_recording_in.html</a></p>
<p>So Naxos needs to sell between 5 and 10,000 CDs just to break even or make a small profit &#8211; even assuming production costs are low.  I want to see Naxos prosper, but it is hard to see how they are in a position to advance the cause of new music.  For those on the cutting edge of the art form, CD sales by Naxos would not seem to be part of the equation.</p>
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		<title>By: Armando Bayolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Armando Bayolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That last paragraph is encouraging!  Reminds me of the business model for Deutsche Gramophon, back in the day.  It&#039;s telling of the state of the classical recording industry that such a traditional attitude about classical recording is seen as groundbreaking.  It is certainly courageous and Naxos has certainly grown beyond its initial &quot;budget label&quot; identity.

And what&#039;s with John Adams these days?  Is it me, or do his public utterances seem almost self-destructive at times?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That last paragraph is encouraging!  Reminds me of the business model for Deutsche Gramophon, back in the day.  It&#8217;s telling of the state of the classical recording industry that such a traditional attitude about classical recording is seen as groundbreaking.  It is certainly courageous and Naxos has certainly grown beyond its initial &#8220;budget label&#8221; identity.</p>
<p>And what&#8217;s with John Adams these days?  Is it me, or do his public utterances seem almost self-destructive at times?</p>
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