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		<title>By: david toub</title>
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		<dc:creator>david toub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 20:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, true minimalism largely (but not exclusively) died in the 70&#039;s for the most part. I didn&#039;t say anything otherwise-I indicated that Glass is not a minimalist, at least not anymore. But I&#039;ve thought long and hard about this, and minimalism isn&#039;t totally dead. Some of us do write music that can be considered minimalist (although most of it is really postminimalist, some is truly minimalist, with repetitive patterns that, like a canon, can be predicted a priori). Would you not consider the latest music of Eliane Radigue or Phill Niblock to be minimalist?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, true minimalism largely (but not exclusively) died in the 70&#8242;s for the most part. I didn&#8217;t say anything otherwise-I indicated that Glass is not a minimalist, at least not anymore. But I&#8217;ve thought long and hard about this, and minimalism isn&#8217;t totally dead. Some of us do write music that can be considered minimalist (although most of it is really postminimalist, some is truly minimalist, with repetitive patterns that, like a canon, can be predicted a priori). Would you not consider the latest music of Eliane Radigue or Phill Niblock to be minimalist?</p>
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		<title>By: BipperBali</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[howdy...I couldn&#039;t disagree more. First of all the Saxophone Quartet Concerto doesn&#039;t re-use any material from Wichita Vortex Sutra.  I would love an example of where it does.

Regarding the Passion.  First of all...since when is Glass likely to stop the action and add an aria?  The Passion is the story of the death of this man.  The soloists are the people surrounding hsi death bed: his wife, a doctor, a student of his called M. who transcribed his speeches.  All those roles including two roles by &quot;devotees&quot; in the chorus are solo roles and quite lyrical.

In an interesting choice,  chorus itself is Rmamakrishna.  And contrary to what&#039;s reported it&#039;s not 50 minutes of recitative. It&#039;s trademark Glass choral writing, very much in the vein of Symphony No.5. Glass took the 1200 pages of Ramakrishna&#039;s teaching and created a libretto of about two pages.  There were really great moments like in Part 1 where the chorus sings &quot;Here is your consciouness, And here is your Unconsciousness, Keep them Both! Mother, and give me pure love&quot; which erupts in a giant tutti. Great stuff.

Finally, The Passion of Ramakrishna is a finished piece. Glass has talked about how he composed the odd number movements and someday he&#039;d like to do the rest.  That would make for another 90-100 minute piece like Symphony No.5.  Personally, I find that because he did the piece the way he did it, it&#039;s very unusual and interesting in its current form.  

The Prologue is the Indian version of the Big Bang as he explained before the concert.  Parts 1-3 cover his death, and the Epilogue is a sort of Indian Hymn.  The whole thing isn&#039;t far off from a St. Matthew&#039;s Passion or something like Les Stations de la Croix.

And by the way...minimalism really did die about 30 years ago.  Let&#039;s everyone move on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>howdy&#8230;I couldn&#8217;t disagree more. First of all the Saxophone Quartet Concerto doesn&#8217;t re-use any material from Wichita Vortex Sutra.  I would love an example of where it does.</p>
<p>Regarding the Passion.  First of all&#8230;since when is Glass likely to stop the action and add an aria?  The Passion is the story of the death of this man.  The soloists are the people surrounding hsi death bed: his wife, a doctor, a student of his called M. who transcribed his speeches.  All those roles including two roles by &#8220;devotees&#8221; in the chorus are solo roles and quite lyrical.</p>
<p>In an interesting choice,  chorus itself is Rmamakrishna.  And contrary to what&#8217;s reported it&#8217;s not 50 minutes of recitative. It&#8217;s trademark Glass choral writing, very much in the vein of Symphony No.5. Glass took the 1200 pages of Ramakrishna&#8217;s teaching and created a libretto of about two pages.  There were really great moments like in Part 1 where the chorus sings &#8220;Here is your consciouness, And here is your Unconsciousness, Keep them Both! Mother, and give me pure love&#8221; which erupts in a giant tutti. Great stuff.</p>
<p>Finally, The Passion of Ramakrishna is a finished piece. Glass has talked about how he composed the odd number movements and someday he&#8217;d like to do the rest.  That would make for another 90-100 minute piece like Symphony No.5.  Personally, I find that because he did the piece the way he did it, it&#8217;s very unusual and interesting in its current form.  </p>
<p>The Prologue is the Indian version of the Big Bang as he explained before the concert.  Parts 1-3 cover his death, and the Epilogue is a sort of Indian Hymn.  The whole thing isn&#8217;t far off from a St. Matthew&#8217;s Passion or something like Les Stations de la Croix.</p>
<p>And by the way&#8230;minimalism really did die about 30 years ago.  Let&#8217;s everyone move on.</p>
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		<title>By: David Toub</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Toub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree, Paul. Most recent (and not-so-recent) Glass is like this. I always feel like it gives us minimalist folk a bad name; I can&#039;t tell you how many times people deride minimalism to my face based on their perception that like Vivaldi, Glass just keeps writing the same stuff (even the same rhythms and chords) over and over again. Not that Glass is minimalist, mind you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Paul. Most recent (and not-so-recent) Glass is like this. I always feel like it gives us minimalist folk a bad name; I can&#8217;t tell you how many times people deride minimalism to my face based on their perception that like Vivaldi, Glass just keeps writing the same stuff (even the same rhythms and chords) over and over again. Not that Glass is minimalist, mind you.</p>
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